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Flavius Justinianus's avatar

This is the best explanation I have ever seen for why the giant Roman Empire had such a surprisingly weak cultural and intellectual legacy compared to classical Greece.

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Kaleberg's avatar

I'm not sure I buy your analysis.

I don't think it makes sense to argue that a state of perpetual warfare and limited interstate commerce is a better situation than having a broad general peace maintained by a relatively small military base. That militarization was expensive. The need to buy military gear could bankrupt a Greek citizen of modest means.

The Romans imposed common laws for commerce, marriage and residence, so it was much more open to interstate trade. Piracy was much more of a problem before Rome made a point of suppressing it. The goal of most Greek cities was self sufficiency, but there are sound arguments that trade can improve living standards, and the Romans opened the door to much more widespread trade.

I seriously doubt that the typical ancient Greek family had 2.5-3 children and that only half of all households had as much as one slave. I also doubt that two adults were the norm. This sounds a lot more like the post-war US suburbs - ignoring the slaves - except that the suburbs were full of much larger families. Those numbers are way low for any traditional society.

I also think the slave count in pre-Roman Greece is way low. A lot of that constant warfare was looting and slave raiding, something much less common in the Roman era. Does that estimate include public slaves like the 400+ Scythian police and soldiers Herodotus noted? How many other public slaves were there? Does it include slaves tied to businesses who generally slept on site? One would expect a power law distribution of slave ownership with large numbers of slaves being rare but dominating the count in the aggregate. How were the prostitutes counted? They weren't necessarily slaves, but they were often treated like them.

Besides, what kind of metric is square footage per person? Are people in New York City or Singapore that much poorer than people in Sioux Falls or Kansas City just because they have smaller houses? As a former New Yorker, I would expect Roman apartments to be rather cramped for the most part, at least by suburban US standards, but there was a payoff for being able to live in Rome.

P.S. The Roman countryside was full of slaves. Maybe most rural citizens couldn't afford any, but the wealthy would own large farms with hundreds of slaves. This was true not just in what is now Italy, but in Spain, Gaul and elsewhere in the empire. Look up latifunda.

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